Possibly Thomas Bragg in Orange Order sash

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DescriptionI'm wondering if anyone might confirm my initial analysis of this family photo as described below, and perhaps hopefully even go further and identify who it might be of ... but that's a long bow to draw I appreciate.

Purely based on my visual analysis of the symbols on the ceremonial sash the gentlemen is wearing, I assume he was a member of Loal Orange Order. Is that true?

The photographic mounting frame indicates the photo was likely taken by the photographer James Ring, of Greymouth. It is also likely that it dates between 1881 and 1887, based on the details on the mounting frame.

My own oral family history has it that a great uncle of mine, Thomas Bragg, was a Lodge Master, but it doesn't quite fit the earlier photos I have of him. The photo might also depict one of the members of the Samuel Hill family of Greymouth (Samuel was born in Northern Ireland 1843; d: 1921).

ADMIN:they were in Greymouth as Loyal Orange Lodge, as well as Dunollie - shows up in Papers Past.PhotographerJames RingMap^[1]ContributorKeith Funnell

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Date Created23rd December 2018CommentsKeith Funnell Did the Orange Order actually have a chapter in Greymouth or anywhere on the Coast? The current NZ website for the Orange Order infers they didnt, but I'm no Lodge expert for sure.

Ann Beech Keith Funnell just curious. Did you have any family members in the Nelson Tasman area?

Keith Funnell Ann Beech I think that is where the Bragg family has some whanau. Thomas and Letitia Bragg were based Picton and think there were cousins in Nelson area. The photo album also has photos of Custom House Hotel in Nelson 1904-1907 so obviously some connections

Keith Funnell Might I guess that this is a relative of your then Tony? If so, has anyone correlated calendar years against the style of wording and actual words used on the mounting card and photographic paper for the Ring photos? The Hill and McAra family photos made frequent use of James Ring as a photographer, but dating the miriad of photos is a challenge.

Tony Ring James Ring is my great grandfather. Dating his thousands of photos would be like herding cats.

Keith Funnell Meow Tony Ring meow ... I recon it would make an excellent museum studies meets graphic design research thesis topic .... just putting it out there in case someone is looking for a research project

Pam Englefield-Absolum There is a Facebook page for New Zealanders of Irish Descent. May pay to post on that.

Mary Kearney Only if they come from Ulster ( Northern Ireland) No Irishman from Eire would a member of the orange order.

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Possibly Thomas Bragg in Orange Order sash

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